Newbie Say Good evening
Hi All,
G Hunting at Present.
Two or three in my sights.
G500 LWB 1998
G400 SWB 2001
Tempting.
Advise or thoughts?
Jeremy
do what im doing..... buy an old knacker and make it look like what you are after :)
Petrol, Petrol, Petrol!
How is the performance of the 500?
Comparred to let's say the 4.6 in the P38?
I like the oddity of the 400, but am leaning to the Petrol.
welcome to the forum.
Spider on here will tell you all about the 500, from what i have experienced in the passenger seat, its much faster.
the 400 is left hand drive only but i do see where the v8 cdi seems appealing.
sure many more will answer you but good luck in the hunt
Tom
Personally I wouldn't touch a 2001 G400. It was the first year they put that engine in a G and they reputedly had a lot of problems with it.... the G500 will likely be more reliable...
Morning Maxwell,
Yours seems to keep falling into my search braket.
Any takers so far?
Hi and Welcome.
Just a few questions if I may?
Will you be off roading it?
Using it on a daily basis?
Have deep pockets?! :lol:
Basically put - G500.
For -
Good comfort
Nice additions (all the V8 Badges. lit door )
GREAT noise
For a G - very good performance
LWB - much more practical and nicer drive (Sorry all you SWB 500's :cry: )
Against-
Fuel consumption
Fuel consumption
Fuel consumption (you get the message)
Advice would be to make sure you have a FMBSH. Check the Kats, spindles Washer wiper motor thingy, rear door hinges and springs.
Have now had my 500 for a few years and frankly can't find any other G/Car that will address my requirements - Rufty Tufty, go anywhere, any time, any place, practical family car, that sounds great, is unique and the chances are if you see another one you will know its owner through the club! You should Drop Goochie a message he has a LWB G400 (featured in the Mercedes Enthusiast Mag a few months back) But heed Maxwell Smarts warning - he knows these things!
Hope this helps
Spider1V
We'll see you good a 500 is after this weekend though, so don't rush out and buy one yet.
We'll see you good a 500 is after this weekend though, so don't rush out and buy one yet.
It won't be the car - more the driver! :D :shock:
SPider1V
Thank you Spider.
Yes to off road mianly shooting, so not big holes etc. But I need to get there in one piece.
G500 appeals for your reasons given.
The one I am keen on is Gas already.
The same system as my P38 had on it, Prins so shouldn't be a problem there?
I really don't want to walk down the same road as on my P38 with £1000 a month on repairs, SWMBO would kill me.
My present car is Fine just dull dull dull dull dull.
I need to drive both I think?
welcome
Hi Jeremy please read your private mail (PM)
I would get a G500 if i were you, or a 1993 500GE if you want to save about 40% on the initial cost.
Pok's right, go for an earlier 500ge remember all Mercs became garbage after 1995. Mainly electrical but also some build quality issues, G's least affected by this but beware nevertheless. Don't rule out the 6 cylinder cars, much smoother and noticeably more economical.
Prwales, thanks for supporting my point!! :) :)
Here is the link for a 500GE http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?id=116931352&__lp=6&s...
Prwales, thanks for supporting my point!! :) :)
not a bad price at all even allowing for the weakness of the £
I like that G.
So (bear with me) If I want to import that G what do I do.
Yes I have to pay Autorista Autohaus GmbH E14980.
After that what is the process?
What duty am I liable for?
Or do I change the lights and get it MOT'd?
Keen to look at this option.
I am not too sure about importing it to the UK, however I could tell you as much as I know about buying a car in Germany.
It's in Berlin... maybe you can fly with ryanair from East Midlands to Berlin Schönefeld to have a look at it. If you like it, call your bank and transfer them the money or pay them with cash. Not that many German car dealers take cards.
After the fund is cleared, they will give you the registration documents, then you will have to go to the local Verkehrsambt to deregister your car from Germany, . You will need to buy a pair of 'export plates for €150, which valids for 14 days.' <-- quote from easydeluxe.
The Verkehrsambts have relatively short opening hours, so check before going!!
Don't think you will have to pay import duty or VAT since both GB and DE are in the EU
All good news so far,
Can anyone fill in the blanks UK side,
Is it as simple as MOT/registration or is an SVA involved?
Shirely it can't be that simple?
Hi Jeremy look on websites autoscout de and moblie de for more G's For sale in Europe
MOT and register, thats it. You may have to change headlights and speedo for the registration process.
you might get away with the speedo, the one on my Scirocco is still in kph after 20 MOT's no one has ever noticed.
you might get away with the speedo, the one on my Scirocco is still in kph after 20 MOT's no one has ever noticed.
and my friend's toyota hilux from Japan too!
MOT aren't interested in the speedo, the registration people are. To be 100% legal you need to show MPH. You can't use the Sat Nav speed either.
Stickers on the speedo may be acceptable if they are durable and can be seen at night. In reality, no one checks, you just have to write a declaration.
i passed the mot with a broken speedo so no worries there!
Late entry here - get a 500 swb in black, grey leather - bees knees. Every time u think about the petrol, just wind window down and boot it. Ask Spider, as long as you ignore the LWB bias. Ask Claire instead.
Late entry here - get a 500 swb in black, grey leather - bees knees. Every time u think about the petrol, just wind window down and boot it. Ask Spider, as long as you ignore the LWB bias. Ask Claire instead.
Hoo Rah! on that one Onelab!
LWB/SWB so long as it as a V8 you will have a BIG smile on your face!
Spider1V
The 500GE drinks fuel alot faster than a newer G500. And have 50hp and 1 gear less.
That's settled then. You will always get more advice than u bargain for on this forum - but all completely unbiased towards "late" 500s
Onelab, big smile despite hole in pocket, roof, shoes, maybe head ??
the earlier 500ge may well be marginally thirstier but its simpler to maintain and has less electrical wizardry that will inevitably go wrong, plus the hugh cash saving is more significant than the economy which is marginal.
plus the fact that the 500ge was a limited edition... only 500 were made.
plus the fact that the 500ge was a limited edition... only 500 were made.
497 Mercedes badged, to be precise :D
lphong wrote:plus the fact that the 500ge was a limited edition... only 500 were made.
497 Mercedes badged, to be precise :D
were the other 3 Puch badged? Or did they only make 497?
lphong wrote:Prwales, thanks for supporting my point!! :) :)
not a bad price at all even allowing for the weakness of the £
That beauty was almost € 145.000 in 1994 in Spain! Soooo love it!
mortinson wrote:lphong wrote:plus the fact that the 500ge was a limited edition... only 500 were made.
497 Mercedes badged, to be precise :D
were the other 3 Puch badged? Or did they only make 497?
Not sure whether thre were 3 or more. I have only seen two!
I really want the one in that link... saw it in real life last month, but the fuel consumption figures stopped me from buying it. The fuel consumption of the 300GE was quite enough for me :'(
work it out on an annualised mileage basis, it will cost a couple of hundred euro more, the real losses are depreciation.
work it out on an annualised mileage basis, it will cost a couple of hundred euro more, the real losses are depreciation.
Nah... it might be the case in the UK but definitely not in Germany. Diesel here is €1.079/L, however petrol (I used to always use V-power petrol) is €1.539 :/
sorry I was comparing the 300ge with the 500ge, I forgot you have a taxi.
Wel I am keen on the 500 on LPG @ G-class will get up for a looksee!!
Any one know the G I am on about?
sorry I was comparing the 300ge with the 500ge, I forgot you have a taxi.
......
the 500GE has no front locker :-(
G400 or G500?
No brainer G500 every time IF it’s an early one. IMHO it could be argued that these were the pinnacle of G evolution. The PUR maybe the one to replace it, time will tell.
As prwales points out it’s well known and documented that MB lost the plot post 95 (oh could that be connected to Chryslers input!?). Lets chuck ever more value in to our vehicles which actually means poor quality electronics with cents shaved off the price per unit whilst charging the gullible Joe Public ever more. A proven model actually, which has demonstrated how easy it is in the USA to destroy your indigenous producers.
It would appear MB have figured this and are now actually removing some of this complexity whilst upping the quality.
So, call me a muppet, but a 1998 G500 should be discounted?
Has an earlier G got the toys?
Where can I see specs and performance for differing models??
So, call me a muppet, but a 1998 G500 should be discounted?
Has an earlier G got the toys?
Where can I see specs and performance for differing models??
I think the 1998 G500(296PS) is already discontinued... replaced by the 5.5L 388PS version.
Take a look at the chart near the bottom of the page.
Sorry I ment should I not look at a 98 G500?
I know it has been superceded but should I only look at early G's?
nahhhh, get a late model if you have the ££! But I think the G350TD is not a good idea.
So, call me a muppet, but a 1998 G500 should be discounted?
Has an earlier G got the toys?
Where can I see specs and performance for differing models??
1998 could be OK, the history will tell you lots (assuming it exists) I think G’s started to suffer from the MB malaise around 99/2000 actually.
You should be trying to avoid the toys
At the end of the day we all have difference priorities and tolerances. Me, I just have zero tolerance for expensive problems which I can not figure out for myself and have little use for toys beyond ABS and cruise control :)
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Way too impatient for that.
Need a G in my life.
Had Range Rovers X5s XC90.
Trying to put off the madness but I can't stop the urge now!
G500
or
G400?