Waterboost./ Hydrogen?

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Has anyone considered thisWeb Page Name.waterboost.co.uk]?
I am thinking of it for my 603 engine, although the kit costs a total of £525 including delivery, I reckon the power advantages would soon pay for itself? Though obviously no mention of any negatives.

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sounds to good to be true, if it worked some Automotive journal or other would have covered it. But you can use lpg in a diesel as a mixer fuel this will give useful power boost and help clean up emissions- many lorries now use it. Your money would be even better spent by junking the smelly old diesel and fitting a petrol engine instead.

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Car Mechanics, covered it and gave it a good write up, a few people on youtube.seem to be giving it the thumbs up, but cabn't beleive you get something for nothing!
Have you driven a Mercedes diesel?

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yes I had a gd300 for a few years, smelly, slow and very prone to vibration which is typical of a 5 cylinder engine

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prwales wrote:
yes I had a gd300 for a few years, smelly, slow and very prone to vibration which is typical of a 5 cylinder engine

:? Well i have 6 cylinder its a we bit Wiffy but 238k miles on it ,Quite nippy and no vibrations :wink:

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yes any six will be better than a 5 in terms of vibration and really I quite liked the old diesel I had, I was attempting to be a bit controversial.
Am curious though about the amount of water needed to produce a decent amount of hydrogen, if my chemistry is right then 8x of Oxygen by weight would be produced for any given of hydrogen so this process might actually be a source of oxygen like NO2 rather than of hydrogen.

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http://www.gwoa.co.uk/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4382t and my own input http://www.gwoa.co.uk/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6619

i got quite exited by it as well but then people one poo pooed it :cry:

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I'm tempted, anyone reckon the best place to feed the gas in after Air Filter as the Manifold on the 603 engine looks like it splits in to 3? I don't know if one can get some sort of multiple injection kit?
I do notice a huge difference on a damp day with this engine, so if one can acheive that minimal power increase, probably worth it.

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hi haven't really studied the water boost technical blurb in detail but Saab used to use water injection to increase power with good results and also the Harrier jump jet uses water injection in its turbine engine for increased power whilst in the hover, in both these examples i think volume/mass gain (coupled with a decrease in combustion temp) is whats created as the water converts to steam rather than a chemical process of releasing hydrogen/oxygen, not saying that the water boost theory wont work though, wish I'd studied harder and gained my masters in physics and thermodynamics !!!!! i seem to remember that Adiabatic is the term used to describe a heat engine if you look up the meaning of this word it might shed some light on the water boost theory (hope my spelling is correct) the more info you can obtain the better you will be able to judge whether the system is for you, best of luck .

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Hi I think you will find that aero engines use water/methanol as the boost medium...The Rolls Royce DART engines as fitted to the FOKKER F 27 / HS 748 use W/M.for takeoff boost.....however you get a very high JPT (jet pipe temp) as a result....

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hi thanks for the correction, not really up on water injection on aero ecu's however i think that the water is injected after combustion so as not to effect the flame front on the Harrier engine which i believe to be a RR Pegasus also as to what mix is used- i concur that it is not neat h2o, just didn't want to complicate the issue, unsure what was used on early Saab's though?