New 280GE owner in Nottinghamshire

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Hi Ladies? and Gents,

I'm Paul, fresh to G Wagens having just won a '84 280GE LWB on Ebay.

I've always fancied one but until recently didn't have the balls to go out and do it. So I have signed up/paid up on here to get the best help.

I've come from the VW scene (still in it, but needed another workhorse) and own a VW Transporter Syncro Doka and a Golf Syncro so you could say I have the 4WD bug. I'm also converting a VW Westfalia Camper to Syncro spec with 4" lift, TDi conversion etc etc.

But enough of VW's - here is the G I expect to collect on Thursday.

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"Mercedes G wagon 1984 Red, Been stored for some years, very good all round condition, is showing some areas of minor rust. Has been for an MOT and only needs a few bits, needs a couple of brake pipes, hand brake cable tightening, new exhaust and a few other minor pieces. Was running up to a couple of months ago when a fuel problem accured Blocked fuel line maybe!. Paint work original and in good condition only the bonnet could do with a repray. New battery, fuel pump, fuel filter, wiper spindle, four new tyres, and a few other bits. Rare BBS alloys. Can be shown running by putting some fuel directly into the engine. Has covered 109,000 miles, has service history. Interior like new condition still with the original mercedes mats. Due to change in circumstances is up for sale."

I paid £1900 for it and it needs a few bits for the MOT, but the condition looks good and the service history/interior seems to reflect that. Being a petrol I will be looking for an LPG conversion pretty quick as it will be used as a daily driver.

I'm OK with a spanner (I own a VW so have to be LOL) so am not too daunted by getting the G roadworthy. Looks like brakes, exhaust (no pattern parts available?) and fuel are the main problems and give that many parts have been replaced on the fuel side I suspect its a process of elimination to sort it (blocked fuel line, duff fuel pump feed/relay?)

I fancy a suspension lift, roofrack, ladder and light guards plusd a respray in gloss/satin? black. I also have to fit jump seats and a dog guard as kids and large dogs are the prime reason for buying the G. That will have to wait till I have ironed out any problems though.

Any constructive comments and pointers on locating suitable parts (noted above) would be very welcome at this point as would contact with a local(ish) G-Friendly owner.

Thanks in advance.

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Hello!!

Welcome to the club! I live in Loughborough... perhaps we could go for a coffee when you get the MOT done? My mechanical knowledge is very limited so I usually ask the other two friendly and helpful members who live in the area when i have a problem...

I am sure you will enjoy being part of this association!

Best wishes

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Hello,

That could be an idea. Loughborough isn't far :-)

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Welcome. Looks like a nice G at a fair price as long as it's OK underneath. A bit of rust around the rear door that might require some attention. Is the rear door itself OK?

Anyway, best bet with the exhaust is probably to get a stainless one made up. As far as brakes go, if it's shoes you can get them religned (I think). Not sure about pattern parts for discs etc but someone will know.

Looks like the plastic bits around the rear vents are missing. I think this can lead to water ingress so I'd look into getting them replaced fairly quickly.

Good luck.

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G-Funk wrote:
Hi Ladies? and Gents,

I'm Paul, fresh to G Wagens having just won a '84 280GE LWB on Ebay.

I've always fancied one but until recently didn't have the balls to go out and do it. So I have signed up/paid up on here to get the best help.

I've come from the VW scene (still in it, but needed another workhorse) and own a VW Transporter Syncro Doka and a Golf Syncro so you could say I have the 4WD bug. I'm also converting a VW Westfalia Camper to Syncro spec with 4" lift, TDi conversion etc etc.

But enough of VW's - here is the G I expect to collect on Thursday.

Description:
"Mercedes G wagon 1984 Red, Been stored for some years, very good all round condition, is showing some areas of minor rust. Has been for an MOT and only needs a few bits, needs a couple of brake pipes, hand brake cable tightening, new exhaust and a few other minor pieces. Was running up to a couple of months ago when a fuel problem accured Blocked fuel line maybe!. Paint work original and in good condition only the bonnet could do with a repray. New battery, fuel pump, fuel filter, wiper spindle, four new tyres, and a few other bits. Rare BBS alloys. Can be shown running by putting some fuel directly into the engine. Has covered 109,000 miles, has service history. Interior like new condition still with the original mercedes mats. Due to change in circumstances is up for sale."

I paid £1900 for it and it needs a few bits for the MOT, but the condition looks good and the service history/interior seems to reflect that. Being a petrol I will be looking for an LPG conversion pretty quick as it will be used as a daily driver.

I'm OK with a spanner (I own a VW so have to be LOL) so am not too daunted by getting the G roadworthy. Looks like brakes, exhaust (no pattern parts available?) and fuel are the main problems and give that many parts have been replaced on the fuel side I suspect its a process of elimination to sort it (blocked fuel line, duff fuel pump feed/relay?)

I fancy a suspension lift, roofrack, ladder and light guards plusd a respray in gloss/satin? black. I also have to fit jump seats and a dog guard as kids and large dogs are the prime reason for buying the G. That will have to wait till I have ironed out any problems though.

Any constructive comments and pointers on locating suitable parts (noted above) would be very welcome at this point as would contact with a local(ish) G-Friendly owner.

Thanks in advance.

can we have piccys of the golf synchro, always fancied one of those rare beasts.

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Grecian wrote:
Welcome. Looks like a nice G at a fair price as long as it's OK underneath. A bit of rust around the rear door that might require some attention. Is the rear door itself OK?

Anyway, best bet with the exhaust is probably to get a stainless one made up. As far as brakes go, if it's shoes you can get them religned (I think). Not sure about pattern parts for discs etc but someone will know.

Looks like the plastic bits around the rear vents are missing. I think this can lead to water ingress so I'd look into getting them replaced fairly quickly.

Good luck.

An inspection on Thursday (when I collect) will tell a lot. The door doesn't look too bad on the pics but who knows. Might be a bit on the bottom of the NS rear door.

Regarding the vents - I suspected there was something missing but being an early G wasn't sure if it was a model variation.

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peter perfect wrote:

can we have piccys of the golf synchro, always fancied one of those rare beasts.

Mine is undergoing a rebuild at the moment so it's not pretty :?

Here it is last week:

I've just begun a body restoration and suspension lift. Hoping to add GTi power later too.

Here's one of the Doka too:

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Hello G-Funk,

Nice to learn of a new member in the area, I live in Loughborough as Iphong does. Looks, like a begining of a G-Wagen meet for the Midlands?

Anyway, welcome aboard.

cheers,

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Maybe. I can bring it along and you can tell me whats missing, whats broke and snigger at it while I cry in my coffee LOL LOL

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G-Funk wrote:

I've just begun a body restoration and suspension lift. Hoping to add GTi power later too.

What engine does it have atm? No chance of getting a VR6 from a mark 3 in there?

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As standard they run a 1.8 carb (lame).

I have seen 1.8GTi/16v/2.0l/G60/VR6 engines (you need to uprate the diff and gearbox) fitted but I think its beyond the realms of my capabilities at this point.

Would be awesome though.

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Hi G-Funk and welcome to the Association!

Hope it's not too expensive to put things right and your LPG conversion goes well. Loads of knowledge here as well as general banter.

Becoming quite a collection of G's up near Loughborough, what is that now 4 or 5 that are club members?

Will keep a look out at my next school reunion (not far from Loughborough - Nr Sileby)

Spider1V

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Will keep a look out at my next school reunion (not far from Loughborough - Nr Sileby)

Spider1V

When would that be?? :D

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Not sure - Mid or end of this month - Its not my year gathering, so not too sure if many of my old muckkers are going!

Spider1V

But if your getting Lonely - I can pop up and scare a few rabbits with the 500! :)

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But if your getting Lonely - I can pop up and scare a few rabbits with the 500! :)

Do it before the semester ends!! Loughborough will become almost empty after the 20th...

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G-Funk welcome on board!

What a fantastic collection you are gathering there!... did you know that the Syncro drivetrain was designed and built and that in fact all VW Golf Countries were finished by the same people and in the same factory -in Graz, Austria- as the GWagen?

http://picasaweb.google.com/mortinson3/JohannPuchMuseum

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Welcome G-Funk I am I suppose also a VW enthusiast though more hot hatch than transporter. Your fuel problem may well be the fuel pump which corrodes, get a s/s exhaust knocked up by "longlife" and re-route it as a side exit, is the car auto? Be cautious of lpg I had a conversion of a 280ge a few years back which was never satisfactory being prone to backfiring into the manifold and blowing off all the pipework on the fuel metering head in the process. Keep the colour reds good black is very rare on a 460 and is almost always a pointer that its a re-spray.

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"What a fantastic collection you are gathering there!... did you know that the Syncro drivetrain was designed and built and that in fact all VW Golf Countries were finished by the same people and in the same factory -in Graz, Austria- as the GWagen? "

the Golf Country was lhd only and is an extraordinarily ugly beast, Pauls is a 1.8 synchro which unlike the Country is not jacked up and the drive train is a torque sensitive set up which gives power to the rear wheels when the fronts slip. The drivetrain for the transporter synchro and the Country were Graz products though the golf synchro I believe was not, owing much to Inglostadt rather than Graz. To improve performance of this car you could go the whole hog and copy the G60 Limited with its supercharged 16v engine but it would be easier and lest costly to fit a 16v engine and run it on twin webers, but I would still uprate the brakes to late Mk 2 16v spec.

regards

Paul

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Welcome

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prwales wrote:
Mortinson wrote
"What a fantastic collection you are gathering there!... did you know that the Syncro drivetrain was designed and built and that in fact all VW Golf Countries were finished by the same people and in the same factory -in Graz, Austria- as the GWagen? "

the Golf Country was lhd only and is an extraordinarily ugly beast, Pauls is a 1.8 synchro which unlike the Country is not jacked up and the drive train is a torque sensitive set up which gives power to the rear wheels when the fronts slip. The drivetrain for the transporter synchro and the Country were Graz products though the golf synchro I believe was not, owing much to Inglostadt rather than Graz. To improve performance of this car you could go the whole hog and copy the G60 Limited with its supercharged 16v engine but it would be easier and lest costly to fit a 16v engine and run it on twin webers, but I would still uprate the brakes to late Mk 2 16v spec.

regards

Paul

My plan is to lift the Golf using a factory lift kit (+40mm dealer option) for improved ground clearance. Actually the Country and Syncro use exactly the same components - the difference is that the Country has a full length subframe between the components and the body to create ground clearance. A GTi engine was offered, but only on the Country but I plan on installing my own in the Syncro.

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Just received my GWOA pack thanks to Tony, the Membership Secretary.

My fiance was very impressed with the tax disc holder, pen, stickers and patch. She can't wait to get the G Wagen running as she will use it more than myself in all likelihood.

We were amused by the article in G-Wizz concerning the 'Worker' model. She felt quite smug knowing that we now own basically the same thing but it has cost about 53k less :-)

Off to flush the fuel tank now and sort out some new pipes. Just ordered new tank straps. Who knows - we may be able to drive it next week?

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Mortinson wrote:

"What a fantastic collection you are gathering there!... did you know that the Syncro drivetrain was designed and built and that in fact all VW Golf Countries were finished by the same people and in the same factory -in Graz, Austria- as the GWagen? "

It is indeed odd that I own the T3 Syncro, Golf Syncro and now a G-Wagen - all with Steyr-Puch relationships.

I've always had an interest in german offroad vehicles like these, the Pinz, Haf, MAN and Munga.

My VW roots means I also love the Kubelwagen/Schwimmwagen too.

In fact I have many military models and books covering the older Steyr/Horch/Krupp models from WW2 - I suppose its an unconscious obsession :D

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careful now don't want people to think you are a secret admirer of all things German and all that implies

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Hi guys ,

I'm very local to you too. I live in Breedon on the Hill (Nr East Mids Airpoirt) if you ever meet up, give me a shout.

Regards

James

PS, how the hell do i post Photos on here?

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Hi James,

I know Breedon well, lovely drive/walk up to the church isn't it.

When mine is a runner I shall have to pop over.

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All you need now is a pinz, haflinger and a fiat panda 4x4!

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HI G FUNK !!

great addition to your unique collection. keep us posted buddy.

rgds hus55.