UK government restrictions on older cars.
You may have read this already but I Received the following in an e-mail:
"The government is looking into placing restrictions on the use of older cars. This could include cars as new as 10 years old and would include preventing them from driving in city centers etc.
The worst suggestions are that for some classic cars you would have to contact your council to notify them that you want to take your classic car out - this would have to be done well in advance of any trip and include a route etc. The council could refuse you permission totally or make alterations to your route for you to be able to take the car out at all.
Basically for some classics, they could only be taken out to go to shows etc. and even then maybe only a handful of times a year.
Please sign the online petition to try and stop this. Link below:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Classic-Cars/ "
Seems like a good and sensible thing to support "Griff"
This has got to be a wind up
Twodogs
They can buy me a new G500 then so I can stay legal :D
well i guess i am definately gonna sell up and move back home towards the end of next year.......they are going to end up weighing our toilet waste and charge us accordingly in the near future....... :!: :!:
then we will be in the s**t :shock:
time to buy a kalashnikov, and pay a visit me thinks.
Another bit of that stupid political correctness that ignores the fact that the more new cars one owns the more energy one wastes, because most of the energy actually used by a car in its life is used when making it.
It is a shame to be governed by these stupid tree huggers both in Spain and the UK.
it was even said in the paper earlier that the 'carbon footprint' (i hate that term) from building a new car is larger than an old cars footprint for its whole life time.
islingtonites are also voting on putting the parking up, and honest john recalled that great fact that just because your car pollutes more doesnt mean that you do more polluting, how many reps do mega milage in economical cars compared to my mums 1000 miles a year in her slk?
honest john recalled that great fact that just because your car pollutes more doesnt mean that you do more polluting, how many reps do mega milage in economical cars compared to my mums 1000 miles a year in her slk?
I always maintain that if they are going to levy some sort of charge the fairest way is to just increase the price of petrol...
The vast majority of pollution comes from middle of the road cars - 4x4s are a minority - especially those that are driven excessively or hard.
But the average person has a 4x greater carbon footprint through their home than their vehicle. Thus if they were really serious they would look at saving energy here....
But the average person has a 4x greater carbon footprint through their home than their vehicle. Thus if they were really serious they would look at saving energy here....
they are putting this into effect, our friends built a new place down the road from us and its so insulated you cant even get phone signal! but you have to wonder the size of the 'carbon footprint' from making and transporting all this insulation, and also the money through taxes the government make off it at £60 a sheet!
Ah well,
All them windmills, and the quantity of very CO2 unfriendly concrete etc that is used to construct them, and the fact that they will only ever intermittently produce a very small percentage of the electric required. DOH
When I went searching on new car compared to energy consumed the best I could find was a US paper that said that an average car doing 14,000 miles a year consumed it's own construction energy in a year .. before this I too believed it was a lot more to make than energy consumed. Anyone have any better references/data?
Still at 2-3 k miles/year it takes me 5-7 years to consume the energy of construction so still better I suspect to stick with my more capable "classic".
When I went searching on new car compared to energy consumed the best I could find was a US paper that said that an average car doing 14,000 miles a year consumed it's own construction energy in a year .. before this I too believed it was a lot more to make than energy consumed. Anyone have any better references/data?
I think that that really is a difficult thing to put a figure to. There are far too many variables which will change with manufacturer to manufacturer and even model to model - yet alone market to market. Issues such as locations (raw materials, part manufacturer, vehicle assembly, sales market), manufacturing processes, components (steel vs plastic, design complexity etc), componment reuse (cross platform sharing), labour conditions, production volumes, frequency/significance of design changes from year to year, etc etc etc
Then there is the question on how to measure the energy consumed when running not to mention when the vehicle is recycled - or even how likely it is to be recycled and then the environment/energy costs to recycle. After all recycle comes at the end of the "enviromental slogan" of "reduce, reuse, recycle".
If you believe one report the dust to dust of a Hummer is a lot less than a Prius. Though I think this is taking it too far....
wasnt there a report end of last year a stats sort of thing that worked out how green cars were taking the average life span and the building process into consideration, if i remember rightly the volkswagen phaeton was one of the worse (has anyone seen the stunning factory thety are built in?) along with the prius due to its r&d etc.
as said before, g has to be one of the best, as how many pruis's will last 20years?
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