something very interesting
Seen at the recent DVD military show was, wait for it,
a RHD 270cdi WORKER :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :P :P :P :P .
Also a armoured g and a green military G.
think im gonna get me some tickets for next years!!! BTW - the two white Gs ? do you think the rear springs are standard ? mine sits alot lower at back ???!!!
the clean white g is armoured,so the springs are suitable for the extra weight, the dirty one I would guess are std to that model.
thought it was - deeper scuttle gives it away! do you know why the right hooker is on germen plates?
err, cos its from germany. Bought over especially for the show, dont know how many have been produced in RHD, But they really want the UK military to use G's. Would be nice if they did. But as seen in Afghanistan, even the G is not protected against suicide bombers, hence the armoured G as well I guess. All donw to money now though, troops are expendable assets.
err, cos its from germany.
will tell me mates your appearing all week shall i ? :lol: didnt realise the TUV allowed for RHD to be registered on german plates.
I understand the DB are pitching for the LR replacement. It is likely that they ran a few through as demos.
Mercs have been turning up at military shows both public and closed for years,
Two were on display at DISC this last weekend.
The Mog is well established as is the Pinz but the G doesnt seem to get acceptance. could it be political do you think, in the mean time the mod has orderd "rupert taxis" from Italy.
Elvis: did you serve in BAOR, if you did you may remember the Bundespost had rhd VW vans so the postie didn't have to get out in the traffic to empty mail boxes.
bill- BAOR ? how old do you think i am ? :D the VWs were called 'fridolins' built on a karrman ghia chassis (wider than bug) impossible to get panels for and shi**ers go for silly money!! look like postman pat vans!! seen quite a few 'pings' round and about where i live , whos gonna be first to spot a military G over here (thats been issued to a unit)
RHD Mil Gs in service?? I doubt if that will ever happen, the white rhd worker is in my opinion a NGO built for Africa a long time ago and not built any more.
I have just seen a MT park full of brand new vehicles waiting to be issued, they all had a National Car rental hanger on the mirror.
TDU at Aldershot had the loan of a Mil spec G from MBUK for "evaluation", must be a couple of years ago now. They rolled it over at Long Valley and it retreated to Milton Keynes. As far as I know, they haven't had another one since! (I could be wrong).
There has been a fundamental shift in thinking on "green fleet" 4x4s in the military. The lightweights don't cut it anymore; no point in hanging armour all over them if you end up with zero usable payload! Other options are being considered and in hand.
Yes Mike, and a Clansman and batteries in a trailer behind.
Wonder when it will be for sale then ?
the white rhd worker is in my opinion a NGO built for Africa a long time ago and not built any more.
Bill, I am reluctant to believe this.... had it been a G290GDT that would be a very plausible explanation... but a long-time-ago made G270CDI Worker?
I have just seen a MT park full of brand new vehicles waiting to be issued, they all had a National Car rental hanger on the mirror.
Were these RHD? I would have thought that the truck pictured by Ian was unique and just another expensive demonstration of MB's interest in getting the UK military to grease their wallets and buy a bunch of Gs!
In any event, a very exciting thing to see.... who would have thought a few years back that Mercedes would produce RHD Gs ever again!
Cheers
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Curiously, the Worker has the Armoured-spec rims (16" Astraroths) now available also as an option to some 463s (G320, G270 CDI and G320 CDI)
Mort nice to see you are still around. The vehicles I saw were all LR 3s.
If you magnify the pic of the worker, does it say 270 or 290 on the screen, hard to see.
The interior shots of the cab are 270 Worker.
Then its a 270 worker.
Do you think the'll be interested in a swap with a 300td. One carefull owner, and 1 not so carefull :lol:
Is that the one thats never been off road ?
Yes, thats the 1 Bill, wouldn't dream of getting it dirty :D
The interior shots of the cab are 270 Worker.
It is clearly a 270 CDI Worker. The tell-tale signs are not only the interior but also exhaust pipe exiting the bodywork right in front of the rear LHS wheel a-la-463. The Worker is nothing but a 463 chassis, axles, engine, gearbox and transfercase couipled to a 460/461 bodywork.
As I said this is the very first RHD worker that I see and it means a lot that DC has bother to build it!
In any event the MOD will not be buying any Gs, the orders have allready been placed for the snatch LR replacement.
No.1 is Armoured Pinz, correct me if I am wrong Mike, but it is now in the public domain, not OSA.
No.2 the Cougar.
No.3 added armour to the old faithfull AFV 432 and all its derivatives.
Wouldn't dream of correcting you, Bill. However, don't believe all you see and read in the Daily Mirror, their "Security Correspondent" obviously wasn't giving the matter his full attention :roll:. Nevertheless, he had the gist of it.
Never read the mirror Mike, all my info comes from DISC.
Get this Jesus, the UK MOD owns 19 Mercedes G LWB diesel 2004 / 2005 463 models all CDIs, light armour to B6. purchased direct from MB on dealer code 294. that is the same number of vehicles total in BRIXMIS and the same dealer code, that is not from the Daily Mirror that is from a very high and reliable source in the mod, they are being used as High Ranking officer and Senior polatician transport, they are not in the UK but you may have seen Tony Blair in one recently.
My source will give me first dibs when a couple come up for diposal.
Looking at records shown to me today the British Army has allways had a few G wagens lying around since 1980
The current purchase was made under UORs and may include some stock diverted from US Marine orders by agreement with the US.
Pictures from Bill
Never read the mirror Mike, all my info comes from DISC.
Get this Jesus, the UK MOD owns 19 Mercedes G LWB diesel 2004 / 2005 463 models all CDIs, light armour to B6. purchased direct from MB on dealer code 294. that is the same number of vehicles total in BRIXMIS and the same dealer code, that is not from the Daily Mirror that is from a very high and reliable source in the mod, they are being used as High Ranking officer and Senior polatician transport, they are not in the UK but you may have seen Tony Blair in one recently.
My source will give me first dibs when a couple come up for diposal.
Looking at records shown to me today the British Army has allways had a few G wagens lying around since 1980
The current purchase was made under UORs and may include some stock diverted from US Marine orders by agreement with the US.
Very interesting, Bill, as usual.
One of such Gs must have been the one depicted in that video where TB (he must be as bad a Tuberculosis with those initials) was visiting Irak and he came out of the G.
But I presume that these Gs were all LHD, weren't they?
Until I saw the pictures posted by Ian, I thought that no CDIs were made in RHD due to the steering and the Turbo-inlet-exhaust manifold unit fighting for the same space under the bonnet. This is clearly not true anymore! And it it's clearly not a case of a "mirror" picture, judging by how very inconveniently is the handbrake placed in that Worker!
Well, to avoid all speculation why dont you ask David Watkins, he was in that truck the day the picture was taken, he also knows the guy who test drives them all. All he needs to do is make a call and you will all know how many RHD's were made and what year it is, why he doesn't post such things is beyond me!!!!!!!. Bloody secret squirrel.
All that bollocks about you cant have RHD because this and that is in the way, if MB want to do it they will, look at the new RHD G55AMG. depends on what return they think they will get. How much do MB spend on R.A.D 1,000,000 a week. I do know that 270 WORKER was 50,000 euro's
Wrong armoured Pinzgauer depicted above. That is the model built for New Zealand. The machine for MoDUK is very different; not quite the same role. Isn't as pretty for a start!
All very odd. But you may recall that last year I was talking about buying a LHD G. I work in Germany with a an Austrian guy. He has contacts at some dealer in Graz or close by. He got them to see what they could offer me second hand. However, they said they could sell me a RHD G400. I told my friend that this was not possible but he checked and in confirmed that I could have a RHD G400 if I wanted. Perhaps there was a run about to go through and it was just a case of tacking another one on the end.
apparently GOC MND in basra has a G!!
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I just found this picture at defense update.com
Certainly looks like a beast of a truck. It's unfortunate that the troops on the ground will have to wait for another 6 months, but at least they've been ordered. I also hate having to say this but I'd rather be in one of these than an armoured G!
Thats interesting Mike, post a pic of the real thing then, I can't get one released to me yet.
Jesus : yep all lhd
Sorry, no can do. To be honest, we haven't actually built one yet and the vehicle depicted in the Mirror last Monday was only a mock-up. The "styling", such as it is, was more or less right though. :lol:
All very odd. But you may recall that last year I was talking about buying a LHD G. I work in Germany with a an Austrian guy. He has contacts at some dealer in Graz or close by. He got them to see what they could offer me second hand. However, they said they could sell me a RHD G400. I told my friend that this was not possible but he checked and in confirmed that I could have a RHD G400 if I wanted. Perhaps there was a run about to go through and it was just a case of tacking another one on the end.
Interesting.... I had heard someone else mention this too.
I will check with my friend again. He was very clear at the time and reconfirmed with them. However, is it not more difficult to built a RHD G400 because of the altered chasis and larger engine?
I will believe it when I see one for sale.
I will check with my friend again. He was very clear at the time and reconfirmed with them. However, is it not more difficult to built a RHD G400 because of the altered chasis and larger engine?
I will believe it when I see one for sale.
Ya thats what I would of thought.... unless he is refering to a 2007 model, but then I thought that was supposed to be a G320 or something along those lines if rumours are to be true.
Well, to avoid all speculation why dont you ask David Watkins, he was in that truck the day the picture was taken, he also knows the guy who test drives them all. All he needs to do is make a call and you will all know how many RHD's were made and what year it is, why he doesn't post such things is beyond me!!!!!!!. Bloody secret squirrel.
270cdi in RHD for the army only Military spec NOT AVAILABLE to the civilian market so I am informed. With the new 320 CDI G being available in September 06 in Germany? But LHD/RHD? Not sure. That’s all I have heard! And read about in the current German G club magazines. As you know if you have the funds and the right contacts any thing is possible.
I was looking at those photos again after noting Jesus's comment about the handbrake, does one carry a passenger to apply it, but more pertinently if MB/DC were responsible for the conversion why did they not reposition the handbrake to the steering wheel side of the gear shift, would seem a fairly simple matter compared to the rest of the conversion work
Seems odd is all,
Marcus
PS
Thanks for posting the photos Ian, veerrry interesting indeed.
I was looking at those photos again after noting Jesus's comment about the handbrake, does one carry a passenger to apply it, but more pertinently if MB/DC were responsible for the conversion why did they not reposition the handbrake to the steering wheel side of the gear shift, would seem a fairly simple matter compared to the rest of the conversion work
Seems odd is all,
Which again leads me to think that this is a very special one-off made to test the waters with the UK Defence Dept.
I don't know if the penny has dropped with many members yet, but both my military Gs have spent a lot of time on display in a number of military establishments ,where a great deal of interest has been shown, many of the characteristics of these 1988 Gs remain in the current build, much of the interest has centered around the difference between LWB and SWB and in particular the individual 6 single seats in the SWB. who knows where it might lead. :idea:
that is a lhd for sale in germany..could we import it in the uk ??? 50000 euros..
That guy has this very rare G (if proved to be correct):
described as:
1999 Puch 300 GE
G 463, 300 GE, RHD, with British documents, details on request
15.400,-- €
Worth a phone call?
I have in the meantime written to the guy>
-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:mortinson@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 08 August 2006 09:03
To: pro.tech@gmx.at
Subject: 1999 Puch 300 GE
1999 Puch 300 GE
G 463, 300 GE, Rechtslenker, mit englischen Papieren, details auf Anfrage
15.400,-- €
Hello,
I am interested in the above vehicle but I am also puzzled at some facts. No 463 Puchs were ever made in RHD and the last 300 GE SWB is supposed to have been made in 1996. How can this be a 1999 GWagen?
Would you please also clarify the origin of this G? Is the price including/excluding VAT?
Cheers
mortinson
Jesus, did you get any answer from this seller ???
This is interesting, please mortinson put us out of our misery, or at least me, before I kick myself...€15000!
fred
contact martin ref this guy as he has dealt with him in the past
i think he said he was in austria ??
Yip,
Guys name is Michael Pagger. His contact details are on his web page.
He can speak English, a lot better than my German, but appreciates some written German if you can manage it.
Never had a problem wirth him, though it's Euros in cash for any transaction that I have had with him. Postage for small G Wagen items is slow, but reliable.
Don't know anything about his vehicle sales side.....
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