M104 3L

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 Hi all!

It's Not on a G but it is certain that some kind people here would be able to help. 

The 3L m104 on my CE has started to make a dieselleeey noise lately, I think it might be something serious to do with the rod bearingsor the camschafts. It's a 91 and has done 93k miles.  Fmbsh until 09 and I change the oil every 6k miles, oil pressure is absolutely fine. The noise seems to come from the area around cylinder 2 and it doesn't make the noise when the engine is cold. 

Any other ideas? Thanks very much!!

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Hi Pok,
twin cam version of the 103 engine, so twice as much valve work as in the g-wagen's version of this engine. I have heard of distrubutor faults and with the EZL but not the problem you describe. I would take it to a Merc specialist familiar with older engines...not a main dealer 

Paul

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Thanks Paul :D

Just been to a specialist and the Cheltenham main dealer. Both of them think that's nothing terminal or need immedieate attention and the noise is not related to camshaft/rod bearing.

Booked it in for tomorrow :S Hopefully not another huge expenditure.

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Hi

OK heres my stab at this one? May be off the mark though!

Obviously difficult with not hearing it but i have heard of this before and in 2 cases it turned out to be nothing worse than the Hydralic Tappet Buckets. They can sound very noisy.From memory they would usually be noisy from cold but on this engine we have had cases where it only showed up fully when warmed up? Again with all the 3200CC M104 engines it is like above stated post a multi valve engine so you have 4 buckets per cylinder and 24 on the engine. We usually found 2/3 on one cylinder sticking and usually cylinder 1 or 2.

Part Number A104 050 12 25 £17.70+vat EACH MB have plenty in stock

Not too bad to swop and you could just do the faulty ones but it makes sense to do the engine set as the others may be on there way, although having said that i do know of garages that just do cylinders 1/2 as they say the others never go, must be a heat or oil flow issue i guess. It doesn't sound expensive at £17.70 but if you fit all 24 at £509.76 inc vat + labour it does make your eyes water!!!

Hope this helps

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 Yes it sounds pretty insane!

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 Thanks very much for the info!

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Do update us with the final analysis and resolution.  I love a mystery.

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I agree with JDRING.

I have had the pleasure (not really) recently of visiting various other forums trying to track down issues or problems on friends cars. I have been on Peugeot, Citroen, VW, Volvo and Audi in the last few months and there was one thing that annoyed me about all of them......nobody ever posted back after advise or a cure was given, to say what the outcome was..... now this is 1) very rude if someone has helped you for free 2) not helpful if someone has offered a possible cure and nobody knows if it worked or not 3) not in the sprit of a forum where people talk to each other and feed back, and informe others if good or bad points in the advice given or even just a thank you or acknowledgment 4) we do all love a good mystery but need to know in the end, who done it!
From my experience on this forum, people in general do all of these things and say thank you and feedback with positive and negative sides of the advice given, or at least the outcome of the situation.....please keep it up as i makes the experience all the more pleasurable in my opinion and will make the forum and community sprit grow, it also makes a contributor more inclined to keep offering advice. On the Peugeot Forum in particular i viewed over 25+ post reply's from one moderator where not one person had responded with a result or even to say thank you or i havn't had chance to look yet. If that was me i would have given up posting!!! We do seem a lot better than this, maybe it is because we have a small potential market out there that this is the case and there is more chance of members knowing each other. It brings me to thinking that we should definiatly all stick together and not split off into other groups as we don't really have enough to go around.

Just me opinions and experiences

Thanks

Gav