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At least I am, but my G is a tad disconbobulated.

I try and keep it going for the occaisional tootle and so took it out today for a run prior to next weeks MoT.

Steering was very very heavy. Checked but could not identify the fluid reservoitr, Found a Dot 4 resevoir empty ! (see pic) But then I can't stay on my pins very long these days, so don't really have the ability to spend any time searching.

I would really appreciate a wee map or a pic or whatever regarding location of reservoir. I quess if it's not fluid I might be in trouble.

 

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Whoop, here's the pic

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Can anyone tell me what the round black item is?

 

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Hi Ian,

it might adjust the timing for different petrol octane quality, it around there somewhere, good to hear from you, if it is that its called an EZL 

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Hi & thanks.

Any clue on the first pic. For the life of me I cannot seem to locate the steering fluid/oil reservoir tank.

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ETA. First pic reservoir is deffo Dot4, and deffo empty. But brakes are fine. Confused.

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Not been on here for so long I forget how to answer... doh!

 

Any ideas about location of power steering reservoir? I'm stumped. Probably because it's in plain sight ....

 

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11 is your steering reservoir, for a 463.  On top of the pump.

 

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Thanks Paul,

I'll have another look tomorrow in daylight. But I don't recognise that from anything I saw today. My wife's suggested that it's fallen off!!!!

Ian

 

Someone with a 463 might be able to take a pic of their reservoir tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

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IanA2 wrote:

Whoop, here's the pic

 

IMG_1177.jpg

 

Hi Ian that is a photo of the fluid resevoir for the difflocks.

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IanA2 wrote:

Can anyone tell me what the round black item is?

IMG_1181.jpg

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Hi Ian that is the housing for the oil filter.

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IanA2 wrote:

Not been on here for so long I forget how to answer... doh!

 

Any ideas about location of power steering reservoir? I'm stumped. Probably because it's in plain sight ....

 

 

This is a photo of a 6 cylinder petrol 463 with the arrow showing the location of the power steering resevoir.

 

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bigblock wrote:

IanA2 wrote:

Not been on here for so long I forget how to answer... doh!

 

Any ideas about location of power steering reservoir? I'm stumped. Probably because it's in plain sight ....

 

 

This is a photo of a 6 cylinder petrol 463 with the arrow showing the location of the power steering resevoir.

 

 

Great, thanks. Any idea what the small reservoir in the very top left of your pic is. Mine is empty!!

 

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That looks very much like the brake fluid reservoir. It should be full up to the line. If you are unsure yourself it would be worth getting someone to take a look before your next tootle. The G-Wagen weighs very approximately two and a half tonnes. Here's hoping you can soon resolve this. Take care. N.
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Nick123 wrote:
That looks very much like the brake fluid reservoir. It should be full up to the line. If you are unsure yourself it would be worth getting someone to take a look before your next tootle. The G-Wagen weighs very approximately two and a half tonnes. Here's hoping you can soon resolve this. Take care. N.

Thanks, yes, it's a DOT4 reseervoir. One of two and the brakes are fine. I'll fill it anyway, but It would be useful to know what it's for.

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Just checked, it is indeed the cylindrical vessel as shoiwn in the supplied pics (thanks folks), and indeed it is empty. However, there is no round top to it, just a nut which is I think the reason I didn't clock it. Probably the plastic cap fell off or disintigrated sometime over the last thirty years.

 

 

ETA: Main dealer quoted me £580 for a service.  Do I need a hearing aid?

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bigblock wrote:

IanA2 wrote:

Whoop, here's the pic

 

IMG_1177.jpg

 

Hi Ian that is a photo of the fluid resevoir for the difflocks.

Ah, I missed that reply. Many thanks, I had sort of guessed that must be what it was for as the brakes are fine. Will be filled tomorrow.

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bigblock wrote:

IanA2 wrote:

Can anyone tell me what the round black item is?

IMG_1181.jpg

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Hi Ian that is the housing for the oil filter.

 

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Ian 

glad to hear you are well!!

Would be happy to call in and check it over... under current climate probably not too wise but I'm open to options

if you still have my details give me a shout... sure we can sort you out

Gav 

 

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btw- the steering ATF fluid will basically automatically bleed by turning left and right.  That is if it even needs it.  You suspected it because of the heavy steering, so maybe it does...there are instructions in the 463 repair manuals on here.  Take the top off, there is a fluid damper in there to check and then just top up with the right stuff.

 

The diff-lock fluid will probably leak straight out the bottom.  The original went somewhere. Quite common to need to replace those lines underneath.

Your brake fluid reservoir (the square one on the brake servo) is likely fine, as you said - between the min and max lines.

580 for a service just depends.  Depends on the quality of the oils purchased.  How many fluids they are going to check and change. For that money I would expect engine, brakes, difflocks (and fix leak), axles and possibly gearbox (depending on what that oil looks like).  Plus a once over everything, adjusting handbrake, MOT type checks etc. Dont forget some contingency for if the garage finds urgent things that need doing while they are there.

Cut back that price by doing just the engine oil change and diff-locks.  But it sounds like worth a good old once-over.

 

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Jdring wrote:

btw- the steering ATF fluid will basically automatically bleed by turning left and right.  That is if it even needs it.  You suspected it because of the heavy steering, so maybe it does...there are instructions in the 463 repair manuals on here.  Take the top off, there is a fluid damper in there to check and then just top up with the right stuff.

The reservoir is completely empty, I'll see if I can find the 463 manuals on here, thanks.

The diff-lock fluid will probably leak straight out the bottom.  The original went somewhere. Quite common to need to replace those lines underneath.

Fluids arrive tomorrow, I'll see how long it stays full, as you say a line prbably needs replacement.

Your brake fluid reservoir (the square one on the brake servo) is likely fine, as you said - between the min and max lines.

Yep, that's spot on & fine.

580 for a service just depends.  Depends on the quality of the oils purchased.  How many fluids they are going to check and change. For that money I would expect engine, brakes, difflocks (and fix leak), axles and possibly gearbox (depending on what that oil looks like).  Plus a once over everything, adjusting handbrake, MOT type checks etc. Dont forget some contingency for if the garage finds urgent things that need doing while they are there.

Cut back that price by doing just the engine oil change and diff-locks.  But it sounds like worth a good old once-over.

Problem is, I really don't trust them, long story but at the last MoT & service they managed to find a broken radiator. I supplied them with a Behr, which, after fitting, they decided was also broken. They were unhappy when I decided to replace the Behr with another rad. I wonder why? Oh, and they also deciced I needed new discs pads and pipes. Brakes were fine, but I was quite ill at the time so didn't have teh puff to fight. It's only done a few hundred miles since their last eye watering bill and I'm not filled with confidence, but I'll see if I can pin them down.

 

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Ian 

glad to hear you are well!!

Would be happy to call in and check it over... under current climate probably not too wise but I'm open to options

if you still have my details give me a shout... sure we can sort you out

Gav 

 

Hi Gav, good to hear from you, hope you're keeping well. I'm shielding, on the extreme list which is fun, you should have seen HMG's generous gift of weekly food boxes!

Thanks for the offer but as they say, "current climate" and all that. Perhaps in a year :-)

 

Take care and stay safe

Ian

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Thanks for all the help folks. Happy to say that some Fuchs sorted it; it now goes as well as ever. Also, main dealer accepted that as they virtually rebulit the car last MoT, it really only needs an oil change. Not actually convinced this is needed, but hey ho...

 

Off for a tootle :-)

 

Thanks again.