Small End Failure
Just been rescued from the M23 following an engine failure. Total loss of power and some noise/smoke at 70. Popped the bonnet on the hard shoulder to see a small end has come through the engine casing. It's a 460 230GE Auto. I've not had a chance to investigate further but it will need a new lower engine at least!
If anyone has any leads on good (maybe recon) engine supplies for this model. I'm all ears.
I had completed a top end rebuild and new timing chain 3000 miles ago so I'll be having a look to see whether this G can be economically salvaged. Also to see what went wrong. The engine was running very smoothly, no warning lights.
Really sorry to hear of your peril. Unusual problem as these are generally speaking very robust engines. As it was fitted into quite a few other MB models, I imagine finding a replacement can't be too difficult. Afraid I can't help you on this matter, but I'm sure some one on this forum can. Good luck.
Hi Andy
Did you get any further on finding out what caused the failure ?
Seems odd to get no engine warning lights or other prior rough running indications for such a catastrophic failure.
But condolences on your loss. Its money out I'm afraid.
How about something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ssangyong-daewoo-Korando-musso-2-3-litre-Engin...
You have a PM
Cheers Gordon
Gordon's buying again...
Be no petrol G's left soon :(
Gordon's buying again...
Be no petrol G's left soon :(
Doing my bit! :-)
Gordon's buying again...
Be no petrol G's left soon :(
Dunno about that......
Spider1V
Hi Andy
Sorry to read about your engine problem. I would be interested in buying it off you as a project if you decide to take that route.
But If I was you look around for a 230. There must be loads in scarp yards. Not a big job to change so even if you put it into a garage it shouldn't break the bank.
Howard
Gordon,
You've got your work cut out for you if you venture over to this island. ; )
Gordon,
You've got your work cut out for you if you venture over to this island. ; )
Thanks Gandore lots of work on engines to be had all over the world, the distance just makes it impossible.
Regards Gordon
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-230-E-1984-2-3-190e-spares-or-repairs...
£450 for a running w123 230 e.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-MERCEDES-230-E-AUTO-BLUE-/271764860204?pt...
or make this guy an offer
or
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Motor-Mercedes-Benz-W124-230E-102982-/37124220197...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Motor-Mercedes-Benz-W124-230E-2-3l-M-102-BJ-90-/2...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Motor-102982-231-Tkm-230-E-TE-CE-CA-W124-Mercedes...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Motor-230-M-102-E-23-102-982-/331462939353?pt=DE_Autoteile&fits=Make%3AMercedes-Benz|Type%3A230+E&hash=item4d2cbb12d9
All on Ebay.de
sk
Awright Andy, the engine block should be the same so problem mounts won't be a problem , have u wiki'd the engine numbers? It should give u the info on all 102 motors except the 987 ! Whats all that about ....
M102.987 is the later 460 2.3 Injection specific to the G - Hydraulic Tappet
M102.981 is the earlier 460 2.3 Injection version of the same G motor - Mechanical Tappet
M102.989 is the late 463 230GE 2.3 Injection version - rare in the UK
quite rare used as they are G only........
Any other M102.98X 2.3 Injection will do the job as all M102 blocks mount the same
Watch out for the.......... (rough guide to fitment)
M102.91X 1.8 Injection motors W201
M102.92X 2.0 Carb motors W123/W124/W201
M102.93X 2.0 Carb motors W123/W201
M102.94X 2.3 Carb motors T1 Van
M102.95X 2.0 Injection motors - G Specific W460 and very rare in the UK
M102.96X 2.0 Injection motors W201/W124/W460
M102.97X 2.3 Injection motor G Specific W463 and very rare again
M102.98X 2.3 Injection motor W124/W201/W463
All these are either early Standard Belt / Mech Tappet or late Multi V Belt and Hydraulic tappet version
M102.99X are the 2.3 and 2.5 16 Valve motors in there various DTM style incarnations W201 or...
M102.99X are the 2.0 and 2.3 24 Volt motors again G Specific W460
Gav
windscreen frame now replaced, all rot has now been removed
body prep now underway......
more prep today, wings refurbished, loads of zinc rich primer, stone guard and seam sealer, gonna pop rest of windows prior to topcoat.......
More progress.....
Good man
Gordon's buying again...
Be no petrol G's left soon :(
Help the guy get a good fix i recon and some good advise on how to get the g back on road cheaply as possible with long term durability
Not to buy cheap for profit surely ??????/
Im confused
Gaz
Thanks for the sympathy :)
It is unusual but I had to stop a lot of oil leaks on the engine when I first bought it so it's possible it had been run dry and the damage was already done. I've averaged a thousand miles a year over 7 years, so it's had an easy life with me.
I got a price for refurbing the engine from Crewe engines today, it's not too bad a price but they don't have any cores or cranks at the moment so that adds a bit to the cost.
I'm leaning towards selling it as is. Someone with a garage would find it quite easy to get the engine out (I know I would). On the street in mid winter it's not funny.