Bovril Moment

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Thought I'd share this with you as I'm cuffed to bits with this

 

  Having owned my White 460 for 8 years during which it has seen serious action in the narrow South West lanes I had to finally admit the white paint was getting seriously thin and Landy (rust) worms were getting a foot hold. A re-spray would be seriously expensive and not ideal for green laneing as it would be wrecked on the first trip out. So I opted, following advice, for a hand/roller painted finish using military standard paint....dry in 30 mins and easily touched up.

  This is the result of 2 long days of work, the preparation taking the most time, at my mates garage.

 The starting point, and I have to admit I think G's look good in white, was a tired looking G the end point  is a totally transformed truck. I need to put the trim and spare wheel back on and touch up the bumpers and bullbar. This is the Bovril moment you'll either love or hate the Matt Olive Drab colour.

 I will post the finished product by the end of the week. If anyone fancies doing something similar I can PM my mates details. He also owns 2 G's and builds winch bumpers etc.

  Cheers

        Paul

 

 

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Well from a distance it looks great, I like the colour. Don't forget to let the appropriate authority know about the colour change.

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Looks well, same colour I did my old series 3 land rover. G's do look so funny without the rubbing strips on the side!

Buy a repair panel for the bottom of the back door, chequerplate shouldn't't be near cars :)

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Hi Paul Looks great and suits the G well.. As you say, if your going to use it in anger, best to have a finish that suits the job.. mind you I still keep thinking about that ORC one that had that plastic hammered finish :-) that someone posted. And finally by co-incidence after a complete restoration 4 years ago, mine is beginning to rust... sodding thing.. but next year I'm thinking of going down a clay green classic merc colour route myself! Great effort Simon
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Thanks Chaps.

 

    The checker plate covers a bit of my "early welding" so will have to stay a while, but I like it there it protects the door when I open it against the boat trailer.

Just put the strips on and washed the rubbers and bumpers off looks good I'm a happy man!

  

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Simon, where is rust coming back? Sure you not getting it out of perspective?

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Grendle wrote:

Thanks Chaps.

 

    The checker plate covers a bit of my "early welding" so will have to stay a while, but I like it there it protects the door when I open it against the boat trailer.

Just put the strips on and washed the rubbers and bumpers off looks good I'm a happy man!

  

 

Get some pics up with the strips on, looks so weird without them!

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For what its worth I think it looks great.

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I second bowser. Looks Great!

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Hi Jason I lost my perspective when I bought a G :-) It is coming from the joints where the old panels meet the new... so specifically the sides where the joint seam is just below the windows - started at the back on both sides where the old top panel meets the new bottom panel and the new entire rear... now showing at the front on the seam by the door pillar. As you may recall whilst not repaired as it was not rusting on the original restoration the windscreen seam keeps rusting - although we have managed to contain that to just the drivers side after an 'Intervention' I am going to take it to a classic car restorer we have found with good reputation to see what they advise re how long it can be left before it becomes major - If I seem quite level headed about this,,,,, trust me I'm not. But Ive been back to the guy who did it and his view is that as its where old meets new then he can't cover it.. My view is there was something wrong with how they sealed the joints between the new OEM panels and the new, and they are flexing allowing moisture into the seam perhaps from the inside out - or the new 2 part (porous water based) paint is somewhat playing a part.. I think I might Artex it though - nothing shifts that :-)) Simon

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All these panel seams are first filled on the outside with a flexible mastic before painting at the factory. I was also going to suggest that the use of pattern parts might not help either, but you say yours are OEM, so I think its may be just down to rust treatment of the old panels and the omission of mastic sealer in the joints. From the inside, the seam areas are sprayed with a semi-hard wax to keep moisture out. This is important.

 

 

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Hi Arnie I have a feeling that the issue was the internal seam sealer. problem is the solution is to split the seams again - which sounds a bit of a hassle - and do it properly - Hence the trip to the specialist restorer.. I'm no body specialist, but as far as I'm aware rust needs a catalyst, two of which would be water and oxygen, so if the joints sealed, job done. As you say from both sides is the important bit. They did put waxoil on the inside seam, but not that thick white stuff you see in the factory. Anyway - The green roller job looks great. Look forward to seeing it with the black trim on. Simon
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OK nearly done!

Just the rear bumpers to straighten and mat paint rather than the glossy black.

 

 

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Simon666 wrote:
.... They did put waxoil on the inside seam, but not that thick white stuff you see in the factory.... Simon

Your restorer will know, but Dinitrol do a wide range of waxes for application in different parts of the vehicle, including engine. WaxOyl is OK, for general use under the car, but perhaps not for this, as I don't think it really contains any corrosion inhibitors.

http://www.dinitrol.co.uk/

http://www.dinitrol.co.uk/Products/RustPreventionWaxesandOils.aspx

Cavity Waxes

DINITROL 3650 - new metal, heavy duty for high corrosion environments - MOD

DINITROL ML3125 - old metal, penetrates through rust, contains high level of corrosion inhibitors

DINITROL 3642W - new metal, new build OEM

DINITROL 3654 - retreating existing applications

DINITROL ML - thin, high penetrating - contains high level of corrosion inhibitors

DINITROL 1000 - old metal, clear, for classic cars

DINITROL 77B - light brown dries to a harder, thicker film used in areas of high mechanical abrasion

 

UnderBody Waxes

DINITROL 4941 - black, tough, elastic and waxy film

DINITROL 4942 - brown, tough, elastic and waxy film

DINITROL 4942M - brown, tough, elastic and waxy film with higher solid content - lower VOC

DINITROL METALLIC - brown, tough, elastic and waxy film - does not harm rubber or plastics

DINITROL HP - high performance, clear, allows paint colour to show through

 

Stone Chip Protection

DINITROL 445 - synthetic resin/plastic based. Black, ideal for wheel arches on off road vehicles.

DINITROL 447 - rubber and resin based, rust protection agent. Contains zinc additives.

 

Transportation Waxes

DINITROL 112 - thick, viscous for long term storage

DINITROL ML - thin, easily removable for short term storage

 

 

The only thing I don't like about some of their cavity waxes- such as ML3125 -  is that they are brown in colour and so can make the area look rusty, even if it isn't.  But I guess they are also for disguising rusty areas.

 

 

 

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It looks great, well done

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Looks well now the rubbing strips are back on.

People would be amazed how good finish you can achieve with a roller, we just primed my mk1 escort with a roller, will obviously have to flat it back before the colour coat which will be sprayed on, but for a matt finish that can be a little textured nothing wrong with rolling!

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Looks the part. Good luck with straightening the rear bumpers out though... I suspect a sledge hammer &/or lots of heat might be needed :-) Made me think though having just got hold of some of the OEM arches secondhand, do all 460 have bent front bumpers? as the new arches have a rub mark where the front drivers side bumper has been pushed back into it - exactly the same as mine :-). Great repaint effort.